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Monday, October 20, 2003

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Izzy

I've always wanted to watch this movie but have never gotten around to it. I'm not sure it's even available for rent from the video store.

Chloe

Soylent Green has long been one of my favourite movies. It was kind of shaky for some reason. But I think the concept was extremely well laid out, and the characters are distinctly flawed, but somehow you can feel sympathetic for them - even the bad ones - because they're real and effected by circumstances.

But I think you're wrong, Heston's character wasn't inherantly with that attitude against what had happened in the world. He did not start out as indignant... he was quite cold at the start of it.
He only BECAME indignant and outraged after investigating why the murder took place, after Sol, his roommate and partner at the same time is telling him how things used to be, while Heston is getting a taste of the 'real food', and then after he starts learnign 'the truth' of what's going on...
I think that's one of the greatest things about the story. Heston's character starts out as a cynic, and through the plot, is transformed into someone who cares about what's going on.

Can you tell I've seen the movie multiple times, enough to have practically studied it? hahaha!!

My favourite part of the movie:
When they're in riot gear in the crowds on soylent green day (Tuesdays are Soylent Green days), because soylent green is the most popular of all the food, and it draws a mob.
My favourite part is when they start announcing "Please disperse, the scoops are on the way, the scoops are on the way!" And then the dump trucks with the big scoops come and scoop up the people!!!
hahaha.

Another favourite movie of mine with Heston is The Omega Man (of which 28 Days Later was specifically a knock-off). And that has a similar character development for him - the transformation due to events and experience. And indeed, the same happens, though to a less obvious degree, to the main characters in 28 Days Later, which is why I think I also liked that movie.

I'm by no means saying these character developments are the single most important parts of these movies, because I think I just personally really like movies where a character grows as a result of the plot.
I think of this because I've been sick recently and have spent the past few days watching Jane Austen's Pride & Prejudice and Emma, and thinking about it, I think my draw to these stories is the character development and the changes that take place in the characters over the course of the stories... But a lot of people just like the romance in Jane Austen, and that's fine. For me, I like best romance stories where the characters go through some sort of transformation in 'getting together'.
And that probably says something about my own attitudes, and effects my tastes.

Anyway, Charlton Heston is an actor. James Woods has been in a lot of movies I've liked, but I don't agree with his politics, by any means. And, in fact, James Woods has played some roles that are seemingly far from his own attitudes.
I think it shows that Heston is really a good actor, as is Woods.
Would I hang out with them? Probably not! haha.

Carpenter

I was also gonna recommend The Omega Man, as the third leg of the 1970's sci-fi Soylent-Apes-Omega Postapocalyptic Heston Fest. Isn't it funny that such a tool starred in these really subversive movies?

jared

thanks for the recommendation, i just added it to my netflix queue...

xoxo, jared

Rachael

God, that's one of Jenn's fave movies. When I first met her, she was horrified I hadn't watched it, made me rent it and then quoted all the lines as we watched. It was great. And I remember how surprised I was at its strength.

Merdog

Watched lotsa scary movies as a kid. None of them got to me like Soylent Green did. My folks used to take us (in our pajamas) to the drive in all the time, and to their credit, we went to whatever they wanted to see. I saw The French Connection when it was new, and as an 8 year old, it blew my doors off. Not because of the violence, but because the bad guy.....got away! I was completely dumbfounded. My dad had to explain it several times on the way home. The bad guy won! It was a revelation to me, because everything I'd seen up til then, good always conquered evil. Even in the spaghetti westerns, things got resolved, somehow.
Sorry. I seem to have rambled.
Soylent Green scared the living shit out of me as a child because it seemed so possible, so prophetic. I could watch Vincent Price and Peter Cushing til I was blue in the face, and sure, I was entertained, but it was just entertainment.
It was the scene with the "scoops" in Soylent Green that gave me the only movie based nightmares I ever had. Still creeps me out.

chemparrot

Fans of these films should also check out John Brunner's amazingly prescient book "The Sheep Look Up", which just came back into print in June. I can't even begin to tell you on how many levels this book connects. Also "Stand on Zanzibar", "The Shockwave Rider" and "The Jagged Orbit". These four related books all predict trends from things that were going on in the late 60s/early 70s, projecting them 15-25 years into the future with unsettling results. I give thanks that things are not yet quite as bad environmentally as "The Sheep Look Up", but every time I hear news stories about activists trashing Hummers and fancy housing developments in California, I can't help but think of the so-called "Trainites" of the book, and the other themes in the book are echoed in the evening news on an almost daily basis. I re-read this book every other year or so, just to give myself a good scare!

Carpenter

We're all such geeks. I love you guys.

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